General Meeting – 12th May 2015

KENLEY AND DISTRICT RESIDENTS’ ASSOCIATION – MINUTES OF THE 501st MEETING OF THE COMMITTEE
12th May 2015 (Available as a download pdf –  General Meeting – 12th May 2015)
Present: Chair: Phil Royse, John Davenport, Anthony Lewis, Geoff James, Marilyn Poulton, Mike Van der Vord,
Richard Cowper, (from 8:15 – 8:45 PM): Cllr Steve Hollands & Jan Buttinger
Apologies: Chris Stanley, Laura L, Steve O’Connell, Police
The meeting was quorate.
501.1.1 Minutes of meeting 500 held on 14th of April were agreed.
501.1.2 Matters Arising: Action Points from this and previous meetings
Geoff J 496.3.1 research the commercial email sending services. Action pending until website and
online subscription problems solved.
500.2.2 email the councillors so that they can send an enforcement officer to investigate the
state of the pavement outside the Kenley Hotel.
Chris S 497.3.29 write/email John Carr to thank him for the list of WW1 service personnel and
request if we could use or publish this
491.3.9 Draft a welcome letter/pack for Road Stewards to hand to new residents.
500.3.33 respond to member regarding possible litter pick.
AnthonyL 500.3.11 approach SmartWater to see if they can give us a more competitive price, and try to
find out what the Met are paying for Met Trace.
Steve H 499.2.2.1 Follow up on potholes along Old Lodge Lane with Council officers.
RichardC 499.3.3.1 Feedback on National Rail progress on the New Barn Lane footbridge, from the
ESTC meeting on 11th March. RC believes that the bridge has been surveyed and remedial
actions have taken place.
Mike V 499.3.4 Contact Philip Clifton to ask if he would be interested in becoming an Area
Steward.
501.2.1 Police
i. AL has calculated that the Metropolitan Police are paying approximately £16 per pack
for the Met Trace project. AL contacted Smart Water to see if they could provide us with
a better price than £25 per pack. The signs cost £9 or £42 depending on the size. The
packs are approximately twice as expensive as those provided by Selecta DNA. This
would therefore significantly limit the number of packs we could deploy if we use Smart
Water.
ii. The advantage of using Smart Water is the Metropolitan Police would be familiar with
the procedures in using it. Although Croydon borough is not part of the Met Trace
scheme and our local officers are not likely to be familiar with Smart Water.
iii. The price differential relates to the packs which we are providing through the project free
of charge to victims of burglary, neighbours and vulnerable residents. Therefore there
would be a trade-off between more packs if we use Selecta DNA, or alignment with the
Met trace scheme if we use Smart Water.
iv. The deterrent effect of the scheme relates mainly to the signage erected. Neighbourhood
Watch have a contact which they use for erecting signage at cost. The proposed new
street lighting being installed across the Borough may mean that signage has to be reerected.
v. The police recently apprehended a burglar caught in the act in Uplands Road. Statistically
this is likely to happen once every 10 years!
vi. AL will contact Smart Water again to see if they will reduce the price.
501.2.2 LBC
i. There is a Council strategic planning meeting this Thursday regarding the proposed “16
storey tower block” in Purley. Could the development include space for the Police Safer
Neighbourhood Team, which are relocating from Addington? The public can attend the
meeting, but cannot contribute. There is a full planning meeting after this.
ii. There is no update on the potential flyover at 5 ways junction.
iii. Due to the general election councillors have been busy with that.
iv. PR noted that the Council have erected a mesh fence by one of the fly-tipping hotspots
on Old Lodge Lane. It appears to be a good deterrent, and it will be interesting to see if
it has an effect.
501.3 NEW, and ONGOING, BUSINESS (items under unused ref numbers are C/F to next meeting)
501.3.1 AGM review. The Borough commander acquitted himself well. A member has
recommended that we employ an outside firm to do the minutes for committee and general
meetings; this can be considered in more detail at Geoff’s kitchen meeting.
The AGM agreed to employ Geoff J services for the provision of the electronic planning
table; GJ will provide an agreement to formalise the arrangement.
501.3.2 Membership of London Green Belt Association: Kendra is listed as a paid-up member of
the LGBA, although no one on the committee was aware of this. The LGBA acts to coordinate
residents association regarding planning matters in the greenbelt. GJ will attend the next
meeting in Westminster. The committee unanimously agreed to fund the £10 annual
membership fee for the LGBA.
501.3.3 Kitchen meeting 26 May: items for discussion include: employing outside services for
minute taking, update of the website from Laura, arrangements for the outreach meeting.
501.3.3½ June 11 Outreach meeting: the format will be similar to the successful meeting at Kenley
Primary School. We need to arrange printing of the flyers and their distribution. It might help
to put flyers in the local shops as well. Will there be refreshments? The residents meeting will
be preceded by a committee meeting with a condensed agenda from 7 PM to 8 PM. Councillors
will be invited for the latter part of the committee meeting to minimise their time
commitments.
501.3.6 Station market: PR thanked GJ for his letter of objection to the current planning application,
which has been submitted to the council. There doesn’t appear to be a clear consensus amongst
members in favour or against the market. There are doubts as to whether it is commercially
viable, particularly without sufficient parking spaces. There are concerns regarding the
planned early start. Some local residents in Station Road have also objected.
501.3.7 Privacy statement etc (AL): previously agreed, remove to section .6.
501.3.8 Hayes Lane hill 1-way: A petition was handed in to the council by Mike Street in favour of
making the lower section of Hayes Lane one-way. Kendra’s position is that there should be a
formal consultation with residents before anything happens. Much of the through traffic in
Kenley comes via Caterham on the Hill. Other options include sealing off the road entirely at
the bottom, removing the humps in Park Road, and width restrictions. GJ has received
representations from residents who are in favour of keeping the humps on Park Road.
501.3.9 Website maintenance (LL): it was hoped that Laura would be at this evening’s meeting or
failing that, provide some background notes; but unfortunately this has not occurred. CS was
approached at the AGM by a resident who offered to help with the website. So there may be
additional help in taking this forward. In the long term, we should not be relying on just one
person for updating the website.
501.3.10 Croydon Res Group Forum: Finished
501.3.12 CCC meetings and minutes
501.3.13 Community Youth Grants: CS to contact scouts to ascertain progress on the memorial
garden
501.3.14 LBC Opportunity & Fairness Comm DIY (MVV): combine with .12
501.3.14½Gardens at Kenley Station: Remove
501.3.15 PWRA – Community Flood Plan; local Flood Wardens proposal; Flood survey (MVV):
MVV will chase with Tarsem Flora
501.3.18 Newsletter: new editor/team. Review CW suggestions, attached: MVV has been in touch
with the Bourne Society to arrange for “then and now” pictures for the newsletter
501.3.19 LMD dust and noise at Whyteleafe: Move to section .4
501.3.22 Moorings Surgery, and data loss: Finished
501.3.24 lower Hayes Lane & possible use of path in Oaklands as it is Council property; Park Rd
humps : Subsumed into 3.8
501.3.27 Litter-picks; funding for cameras+legal, OLL; Godstone Rd; waste dumping problems
(WB) Duplicates 5 ½, Remove to section .6
501.3.28 Planning: Interest in LinkedIn (GJ) Move to section .4
501.3.29 Northwood Ave parking: Move to section .4
501.3.30 Material dumped by 261 HL + Golf Road stables and fence and electricity: Move to
section .4
501.3.31 CCTV in prisoner transport vans: Finished
501.3.32 Local Kenley problems: parking station/shops; Lamppost design & programme: Move
to section .6
501.3.33 AOB
GJ is investigating opportunities for generating advertising revenue on his webpages and also
on Kendra’s website. There are complications but he will research into this and present his
findings at the July or September meeting.
Date of next Committee meeting: Thursday June 11: committee meeting and outreach meeting St.
James Church Hall, Little Roke Avenue. Jul 14 Committee meeting, Sep 8 Committee meeting, Sep
29 Geoff’s Kitchen Oct 13 Shortened Committee meeting followed by GM in main Hall, Nov 10
Committee meeting, Dec 1 Committee meeting.
501.4 OTHER ONGOING / OUTSTANDING BUSINESS
Support of vulnerable residents (CPJS), Croydon Energy-from-Waste, Liaise with schools as
means of promoting KENDRA (CPJS), Closure of Purley Fire Station, Archives and financial
documents, Glider Cable incident, Changes to Insurance policy, Kendra signs at east end of
Valley Road, Material dumped by 261 HL + Golf Road stables and fence and electricity,
Northwood Ave parking, Interest in LinkedIn, Area grants; other sources of smaller grants,
New notice boards, LMD dust and noise at Whyteleafe
501.5 Committee Reports.
Written reports received & circulated from: Vice Chairman, Treasurer, Planning, Website.
501.6 PREVIOUS BUSINESS (Dormant or semi-dormant but unfinishable)
Higher Drive RecreatIon, Mosque on OLL, The Moorings PP Group. Unannounced changes
to train timetables Bridge by Kenley Primary School, Parking station/shops, Lamppost
design & programme, Litter-picks; funding for cameras+legal, OLL